{"id":1206,"date":"2019-06-20T08:43:27","date_gmt":"2019-06-20T06:43:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/?p=1206"},"modified":"2019-06-20T09:14:30","modified_gmt":"2019-06-20T07:14:30","slug":"podcast-explains-why-i-debated-mark-collett-about-israel-zionism-and-the-myth-of-a-jewish-ethno-state","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/2019\/06\/podcast-explains-why-i-debated-mark-collett-about-israel-zionism-and-the-myth-of-a-jewish-ethno-state\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast explains why I debated Mark Collett about Israel, Zionism and the myth of a Jewish ethno-state"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>On Tuesday night I took part in a 2 hour YouTube Hangout debating Israel, white nationalism and ethno-states with Mark Collett and other people at the invitation of Joseph from the Israel Advocacy Network. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fSoX7rbydh8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Joseph took down his live stream copy and replaced it with a short explanatory video (opens in a new tab)\">Joseph took down his live stream copy and replaced it with a short explanatory video<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These are my follow up comments on the debate. Below the video I\u2019ll post the comment I put on <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"3Speak when I posted the complete video yesterday evening and you can find that at the link (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/3speak.online\/watch?v=brianoflondon\/vtrcypfz\" target=\"_blank\">3Speak when I posted the complete video yesterday evening and you can find that at the link<\/a>. This video is a disection of who Mark Collett is, my interpretation of his views and how he puts them forward.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.3speak.online\/?v=brianoflondon\/kjrsliyr\" allowfullscreen=\"\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>To answer a specific set of questions being thrown at me on Twitter (which I don\u2019t address in the video), I don\u2019t give a damn what colour Jews in Israel are. I\u2019m unconcerned at nonsense such as \u201cwould I care if Israel become a majority black state\u201d. I\u2019m unconcerned by the skin colour but I\u2019m deeply concerned that Israel remain Jewish which probably means a Jewish majority (no matter what skin colour we all are) and that the dominant culture and basis for law remain Jewish. Where we draw the boundaries on religious observance remains ours to debate. I don\u2019t like Jews marrying out of Judaism but I don\u2019t see that it is the role of a government to stop it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t foresee or necessarily advocate for a removal of non-Jews from the country, so long as those who remain do so under the strict knowledge that they are in a Jewish country and that any desire to change that most basic nature of the country is not to be tolerated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is what I posted alongside the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"full debate video (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/3speak.online\/watch?v=brianoflondon\/vtrcypfz\" target=\"_blank\">full debate video<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This debate was organised by Joseph of the Israel Advocacy Network who invited me on it. With some hesitation I agreed to take part despite knowing exactly who Mark Collett is and what he says. I&#8217;m also pretty familiar with his (real) neo-Nazi audience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I knew he&#8217;d bring along a bunch of ridiculous and skewed Ha&#8217;aretz and Guardian articles (he had all the ones I expected) and his usual grab bag of updated versions of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and Culture of Critique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The live chat was a cesspool and I believe the chat caused the original to be removed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As bad as Mark is and what he represents, I don&#8217;t believe he will ever achieve great success or reach. He&#8217;ll speak to his crowd of devoted followers but going through life blaming Jews for everything you don&#8217;t have will never be a successful strategy. Sure you can take Poland with a tank or two but eventually, with a bit of luck, freedom and sanity will win over again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For the main reason that Mark&#8217;s views are not mainstream anywhere in any semblance of authority, I don&#8217;t regard them as a serious existential threat (and no, Orban, Salvini, the AFD and other on the new right in Europe aren&#8217;t as bad as Mark). The far-left and Islam run countries, academia and the media: that&#8217;s a real threat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Joseph has posted a short video explaining why his version of the live chat has gone down but as the alt-right and the neo-Nazis are posting the video in full, for the record, so will I. I don&#8217;t believe Mark made his points to anything but his own audience and I&#8217;ll explain more in my own video soon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So here it is, unedited and up on an immutable block chain site.<\/p>\n<div id='exxp_wp_comment_feed'><iframe name='exxp_wp_embed'  onload=\"iFrameResize({ scrolling:true, heightCalculationMethod:'min'})\" src=\"https:\/\/two.exxp.io\/?author=brianoflondon&permlink=podcastexplainswhyidebatedmarkcollettaboutisraelzionismandthemythofajewishethno-state-4788y1bcw8&display_comment=true&parent=https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/2019\/06\/podcast-explains-why-i-debated-mark-collett-about-israel-zionism-and-the-myth-of-a-jewish-ethno-state\/\" style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; margin-bottom: 0px !important;\"><\/iframe><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As bad as Mark is and what he represents, I don&#8217;t believe he will ever achieve great success or reach.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1207,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"episode_type":"audio","audio_file":"https:\/\/data.brianoflondon.me\/podcasts\/podcast_explains_why_i_debated_mark_collett_about_israel_zionism_and_the_myth_of_a_jewish_ethno-state.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"21:08","filesize":"20 MB","date_recorded":"20-06-2019","explicit":"","block":"","itunes_episode_number":"28","itunes_title":"Podcast explains why I debated Mark Collett about Israel, Zionism and the myth of a Jewish ethno-state","itunes_season_number":"","itunes_episode_type":"full","filesize_raw":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"Podcast explains why I debated Mark Collett about Israel, Zionism and the myth of a Jewish ethno-state.","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[28,62,6],"tags":[229,11,228,115],"series":[29],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/Mark-Collett-16x9-Frame.jpg","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Looking-north-from-Golan-blue-sky-clouds-2015-02-07-20x12.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/podcast-download\/1206\/podcast-explains-why-i-debated-mark-collett-about-israel-zionism-and-the-myth-of-a-jewish-ethno-state.mp3","player_link":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/podcast-player\/1206\/podcast-explains-why-i-debated-mark-collett-about-israel-zionism-and-the-myth-of-a-jewish-ethno-state.mp3","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"dark","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/brianoflondons-forest-talks\/id1449727433","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"overcast":{"key":"overcast","url":"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/itunes1449727623\/","label":"Overcast","class":"overcast","icon":"overcast.png"},"rss":{"key":"rss","url":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/feed\/podcast\/brians-forest-talks","label":"RSS","class":"rss","icon":"rss.png"},"itunes":{"key":"itunes","url":"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/brian-of-londons-forest-talks\/id1449727433","label":"iTunes","class":"itunes","icon":"itunes.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/feed\/podcast\/brians-forest-talks","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"PQALqGUn2f\"><a href=\"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/2019\/06\/podcast-explains-why-i-debated-mark-collett-about-israel-zionism-and-the-myth-of-a-jewish-ethno-state\/\">Podcast explains why I debated Mark Collett about Israel, Zionism and the myth of a Jewish ethno-state<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/brianoflondon.me\/2019\/06\/podcast-explains-why-i-debated-mark-collett-about-israel-zionism-and-the-myth-of-a-jewish-ethno-state\/embed\/#?secret=PQALqGUn2f\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Podcast explains why I debated Mark Collett about Israel, Zionism and the myth of a Jewish ethno-state&#8221; &#8212; Brian of London\" data-secret=\"PQALqGUn2f\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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